Closing Legal's AI Value Gap | Legal Soundings S2E4

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AI can already do far more than legal is using it for. So who captures the value, and what will it take to close the gap? Zena Applebaum, SVP and Head of Marketing at Harbor, hosts a conversation with Matt Sunderman, CEO of Harbor; Zach Posner, Co-founder and Managing Director of The LegalTech Fund; and Mary O'Carroll, CEO of Legal Engineering Consulting Group.The core tension: the technology is moving faster than any organization can absorb it. Matt points to estimates that organizations are capturing only about 5% of what today's AI can do, in an industry that has never rewarded efficiency. Closing that gap means moving past tool selection and login counts to re-engineering how legal work is priced, staffed, and delivered.The conversation covers:Why the billable hour still hasn't changed, and how AI-native firms are starting to break it "$13,000 engagement, 52 cents of compute": what happens when lawyer time shifts from scarce to abundant.What founders see, and why established firms feel the pressure but lack real urgencyWhat successful implementation looks like, and the rise of legal engineersThe 5% problem: the gap between what AI can do and the productivity gains organizations actually captureDoes a high valuation mean better outcomes for clients? Capital as a weapon in legal techWho should get the value of AI productivity gains: clients, firms, or bothExecution vs. judgment: how the legal business model shiftsWhy this could be the one tech shift that favors incumbents, if they moveConsolidation, 200 new pitches a month, and who's still standing in 2028The one signal each guest is watching for in the next 12 monthsAbout Legal Soundings: Legal Soundings is Harbor's podcast exploring how technology, leadership, and innovation are reshaping the business of law. Each episode features a rotating Harbor host and expert voices from across the legal ecosystem.Learn more about Harbor: https://harborglobal.com

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