Ep. 244 - Living the Lifetime of All Lifetimes: Astrology, the Second Saturn Return, and the Moon Cycles

From Not Your Mother's Menopause with Dr. Fiona Lovely | Perimenopause and Menopause Support · 01:33:36

Show by Dr. Fiona Lovely

In this conversation, Dr. Fiona Lovely welcomes Shannon Hugman, a professional astrologer with fifteen years of experience, retreat host, and author of Dear Stardust and the Moon Cycles and Me Journal. Shannon shares her unlikely path into the work—she tried hard not to become an astrologer—and explains how a childhood game of guessing birthdays on the playground eventually led her back to her gifts. Together, they explore how astrology functions as art and storytelling rather than a rigid set of predictions, and why developing a personal relationship with the sky can be a powerful act of self-understanding. The conversation turns to the significance of rising signs, with Dr. Fiona discovering how her Aries ascendant fills in the gaps left by her Leo sun, and Shannon explains why the second Saturn return—arriving in a woman's late fifties to early sixties—represents a profound invitation to reclaim time, passion, and identity after decades of caring for others. Shannon also speaks to the remarkable current astrological shifts occurring collectively, with multiple outer planets changing signs, marking a genuine reset point in human history. She frames this as a shift from the archetype of the warrior to the pioneer—moving away from fighting to be heard and toward building something new. The episode closes with a moving discussion of ancestral trauma, the liberating choice to stop identifying with old wounds, and the invitation to set down what has been carried for generations. Episode Highlights: Why astrology is best approached as art, metaphor, and curiosity rather than fixed answers How understanding your rising sign can deepen self-knowledge beyond your sun sign The second Saturn return and what it means for women entering their wise years The collective planetary shifts of this era and what they signal about identity and fresh starts Why moving from warrior to pioneer may be the most important shift of our time The radical act of choosing not to carry ancestral pain into the next chapter If you have ever wondered whether the sky is speaking to you, this conversation may be the nudge you have been waiting for. Connect with Shannon Hugman Website: https://www.shannonhugman.com/ YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ShannonHugman Thank you to our sponsors for this episode: 💙🌿BEAM Minerals to help with stress related depletion - this is your 2026 pro-health move! Did you know that chronic stress can zap your energy and your minerals? You FEEL better quickly, with this easy to take supplement - replenishing all lost minerals. Give BEAM a try - beamminerals.com and use the code LOVELY for 20% off your first order! 🥗Women in perimenopause and menopause talk about wanting the same things — less bloating, no afternoon crash after eating, steady energy. MassZymes is perfect for helping your body's ability to actually process what you eat. MassZymes uses a full-spectrum blend of 18 enzymes. That means you're getting more out of the food you eat. Plus, it works across different stomach acid levels, which can really matter as we age. Go to bioptimizers.com/lovely and use code LOVELY to get 15% off your order! 🛌Support for Deeper Sleep with BIOptimizers > We talk a lot about hormone and nervous system balance, and quality sleep is foundational to both. Most supplements rely on just one cheap form of magnesium, but Magnesium Breakthrough includes all ten essential forms to truly nourish your nervous system and support deep, restful sleep.* BIOptimizers has spent over two decades in their own lab perfecting this blend. Get 15% off your order: Visit bioptimizers.com/lovely and use promo code LOVELY at checkout. The Menopause Doula Council is opening its doors to the new cohort of the Menopause Doula Certification soon! Join us at our free 2-part masterclass! (Register even if you can't make it as limited time recordings will be sent if you are registered.) Dr. Fiona Lovely is a longevity, health and wellness expert with specialties in menopause medicine, functional neurology and functional medicine. She is speaking to the topics of women's health around perimenopause and menopause. How to work with Dr. Lovely: We get many requests for this info, so here it is! First off, thank you for listening to the NYMM podcast. It's because of your support, we can continue to dispense this information.❤️ The Menopause Doula Council is opening its doors to the new cohort of the Menopause Doula Certification soon! Join us at our free 2-part masterclass! (Register even if you can't make it! Recordings will be sent to everyone registered!) Follow Dr. Lovely on IG and TikTok: @drfionalovely Follow the podcast on Facebook: www.facebook.com/@notyourmothersmenopausepodcast Please sign up for our newsletter - Fiona's Friday Favourites! This is where we make the first announcements, share course offerings, drop new episodes, blog posts and the coveted 'Fiona's Favourites' column, etc. drlovely.com You can also find some great resources…

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