We Never Expected Infidelity to Become Part of Our Story | Carl & Laura Lentz | JPP EP99

From Jesus People Podcast

Show by Ryan Miller

**Join The Bible in a Year Devotional: The Jesus Thread** https://www.thejesuspeoplemovement.org/jesus-thread-signup **My New Book: Meek as a Mustang** https://www.thejesuspeoplemovement.org/meek **Get the Book: Overcoming Infidelity** https://a.co/d/04gUDowm What happens when infidelity destroys the marriage, family, and ministry you spent your life building? Can trust ever be rebuilt after betrayal? And what does forgiveness actually look like when the wounds are still real? In Episode 99 of The Jesus People Podcast, Ryan Miller sits down with Carl and Laura Lentz for an honest and deeply personal conversation about infidelity, marriage restoration, forgiveness, accountability, and the long road to healing. After the public collapse of their life and ministry at Hillsong NYC, Carl and Laura share what happened behind the headlines, the devastating impact of betrayal, and the difficult decisions that followed. Laura opens up about discovering Carl's unfaithfulness, navigating the loneliness of the aftermath, rebuilding her identity, and learning to trust again. Carl reflects on accountability, the consequences of his choices, and what it takes to become a man who consistently chooses honesty and faithfulness. This isn't a story about pretending everything is okay. It's about confronting the truth, rebuilding emotional safety, understanding grace, and discovering that healing doesn't happen overnight. **Key Highlights:** • Carl and Laura Lentz's story of infidelity and marriage restoration • The truth behind the Hillsong NYC scandal and its impact on their family • Recognizing red flags, gaslighting, and the importance of trusting your discernment • What disclosure means and why complete honesty matters after betrayal • How Laura navigated anger, grief, loneliness, and the journey toward forgiveness • Why emotional safety must come before physical intimacy • Rebuilding trust through consistent actions, accountability, and evidence • Why forgiveness does not automatically mean trust or reconciliation • How to establish healthy boundaries and reclaim your identity after betrayal • The impact of infidelity on children and the importance of family healing • What genuine repentance, grace, and accountability look like • Why consequences can remain even when forgiveness has been given • Finding hope and God's faithfulness in the middle of personal devastation **FEATURED BOOK: OVERCOMING INFIDELITY** Carl and Laura Lentz's book, *Overcoming Infidelity: Ten Conversations to Help You Heal the Hurt*, offers practical conversations for couples navigating the aftermath of betrayal and seeking a path toward healing. Whether you're personally struggling with infidelity, supporting someone whose marriage has been affected by betrayal, or trying to understand what biblical forgiveness and restoration really look like, this conversation offers an honest perspective on the difficult work of healing. If you're struggling with marriage, lust, pornography, addiction, betrayal, or other personal battles, you don't have to walk through it alone. **Christian Life Coaching Through ShareTheStruggle** Our team offers Christ-centered coaching to help you work through life's struggles with biblical guidance, prayer, and practical next steps. https://www.sharethestruggle.org **Follow Ryan Miller and Stay Connected:** Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/ryan_miller/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@dudewithgoodnews Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/dudewithgoodnews/ Website and Coaching: https://www.sharethestruggle.org/ Email: [email protected] **Listen to The Jesus People Podcast:** Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/0RLKmkUpydJr2y84tqQekp?si=8768039f3f5f4e38 Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/jesus-people-podcast/id1768632876 Amazon Music: https://music.amazon.com/podcasts/dac27441-bed6-4d73-9246-d2dbe93dccf0/jesus-people-podcast **Subscribe for more honest conversations about marriage, faith, biblical truth, forgiveness, spiritual growth, and following Jesus through life's hardest seasons.** #CarlLentz #LauraLentz #OvercomingInfidelity #MarriageRestoration #Infidelity #ChristianMarriage #Forgiveness #MarriageHealing #Hillsong #JesusPeoplePodcast #RyanMiller

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